The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 02 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 02 (of 11)
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cannot be excommunicated by a Church, which themselves do
constitute. For if they could, there would not only not remain a
Church, but not so much as a _commonweal_, and they would be
dissolved of themselves; and this were not _to be excommunicated_ or
_prohibited_. But if they be excommunicated by some other Church,
that Church is to esteem them as heathen. But no _Christian Church_,
by the doctrine of Christ, can forbid the heathen to gather together
and communicate among themselves, as it shall seem good to their
cities; especially if they meet to worship Christ, although it be
done in a singular custom and manner: therefore also not the
_excommunicated_, who are to be dealt with as heathen. Thirdly, _a
prince who hath the sovereign power, cannot be excommunicated_. For
by the doctrine of Christ, neither one nor many subjects together
can interdict their prince any public or private places, or deny him
entrance into any assembly whatsoever, or prohibit him the doing of
what he will with his own jurisdiction. For it is treason among all
cities, for any one or many subjects jointly to arrogate to
themselves any authority over the whole city. But they who arrogate
to themselves an authority over him who hath the supreme power of
the city, do arrogate the same authority over the city itself.
Besides, a sovereign prince, if he be a Christian, hath this further
advantage; that the city whose will is contained in his, is that
very thing which we call a Church. The _Church_ therefore
excommunicates no man, but whom it excommunicates by the authority
of the prince. But the prince excommunicates not himself; his
subjects therefore cannot do it. It may be indeed, that an assembly
of rebellious citizens or traitors may pronounce the sentence of
excommunication against their prince; but not _by right_. Much less
can one prince be excommunicated by another; for this would prove
not an excommunication, but a provocation to war by the way of
affront. For since that is not one Church, which is made up of
citizens belonging to two absolute cities, for want of power of
lawfully assembling them, (as hath been declared before, in art.
22); they who are of one Church are not bound to obey another, and
therefore cannot be excommunicated for their disobedience. Now, what
some may say, that princes, seeing they are members of the universal
Church, may also by the authority of the universal Church be
excommunicated, signifies nothing: because _the universal Church_,
(as hath been showed in art. 22), is not _one person_, of whom it
may be said that _she acted, decreed, determined, excommunicated,
absolved_, and the like personal attributes; neither hath she any
governor upon earth, at whose command she may assemble and
deliberate. For to be guide of the universal Church, and to have the
power of assembling her, is the same thing as to be governor and
lord over all the Christians in the world; which is granted to none,
but God only.