5. Concerning other things, which some men call _spirits incorporeal_, and some _corporeal_, it is not _possible_ by _natural_ means only, to come to _knowledge_ of so much, as that _there are such_ things. We that are Christians _acknowledge_ that there be angels good and evil, and that there are spirits, and that the soul of a man is a spirit, and that those spirits are immortal: _but_, to _know_ it, that is to say, to have natural evidence of the same, it is _impossible_: for, all _evidence_ is _conception_, as it is said, chap. VI. sect. 3, and all conception is imagination, and proceedeth from _sense_, chap. III. sect. 1. And _spirits_ we suppose to be those substances which work _not_ upon the _sense_, and therefore not conceptible. But though the Scripture acknowledges spirits, yet doth it nowhere say, that they are incorporeal, meaning thereby, without dimension and quality; nor, I think, is that word incorporeal at all in the Bible; but it is said of the spirit, that it abideth in men; sometimes that it dwelleth in them, sometimes that it cometh on them, that it descendeth, and goeth, and cometh; and that spirits are angels, that is to say messengers: all which words do imply _locality_; and locality is _dimension_; and whatsoever hath dimension, is _body_, be it never so subtile. To me therefore it seemeth, that the Scripture favoureth them more, that hold angels and spirits corporeal, than them that hold the contrary. And it is a plain _contradiction_ in natural discourse, to say of the soul of man, that it is _tota in toto, et tota in qualibet parte corporis_, grounded neither upon reason nor revelation, but proceeding from the ignorance of what those things are which are called _spectra_, images, that appear in the dark to children, and such as have strong fears, and other strange imaginations, as hath been said, chapter III. sect. 5, where I call them phantasms: for, taking them to be things real, without us, like bodies, and seeing them to come and vanish so strangely as they do, unlike to _bodies_; what could they call them else, but _incorporeal bodies_? which is not a name, but an absurdity of speech. 6. It is true, that the heathens, and all nations of the world, have acknowledged that there be _spirits_, which for the most part they hold to be incorporeal; whereby it might be thought, that a man by natural reason, may arrive, without the Scriptures, to the knowledge of this, _that spirits are_: but the erroneous collection thereof by the heathens, may proceed, as I have said before, from the ignorance of the cause of ghosts and phantasms, and such other apparitions. And from thence had the Grecians their number of gods, their number of _dæmons_ good or bad, and for every man his _genius_; which is not the acknowledging of this truth, _that spirits are_; but a false opinion concerning the force of imagination.