The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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To all this, which hath been pressed before, I have answered before; but
that he says I say, “having commanded one thing openly, he plots another
thing secretly,” it is not mine, but one of his own ugly phrases. And
the force it hath, proceeded out of an apprehension he hath, that
affliction is not God’s correction, but his revenge upon the creatures
of his own making; and from a reasoning he useth, “because it is not
just in a man to kill one man for the amendment of another, therefore
neither is it so in God;” not remembering that God hath, or shall have
killed all the men in the world, both nocent and innocent.
My assertion, he saith, “is a dream, and the sum of it this; that where
there is no law, there no killing or anything else can be unjust; that
before the constitution of commonwealths, every man had power to kill
another,” &c., and adds, that “this may well be called stringing of
paradoxes.” To these my words he replies:
(_h_) “There was never any time when mankind was without governors,
laws, and societies.”
It is very likely to be true, that since the creation there never was a
time in which mankind was totally without society. If a part of it were
without laws and governors, some other parts might be commonwealths. He
saw there was paternal government in Adam; which he might do easily, as
being no deep consideration. But in those places where there is a civil
war at any time, at the same time there is neither laws, nor
commonwealth, nor society, but only a temporal league, which every
discontented soldier may depart from when he pleases, as being entered
into by each man for his private interest, without any obligation of
conscience: there are therefore almost at all times multitudes of
lawless men. But this was a little too remote from his understanding to
perceive. Again, he denies, that ever there was a time when one private
man might lawfully kill another for his own preservation; and has
forgotten that these words of his (No. II.), “this is the belief of all
mankind, which we have not learned from our tutors, but is imprinted in
our hearts by nature; we need not turn over any obscure books to find
out this truth,” &c.; which are the words of Cicero in the defence of
Milo, and translated by the Bishop to the defence of free-will, were
used by Cicero to prove this very thing, that it is and hath been always
lawful for one private man to kill another for his own preservation. But
where he saith it is not lawful _ordinarily_, he should have shown some
particular case wherein it is unlawful. For seeing it is a “belief
imprinted in our hearts,” not only I, but many more are apt to think it
is the law of nature, and consequently universal and eternal. And where
he saith, this right of defence where it is, “is not a remainder of some
greater power which they have resigned, but a privilege which God hath
given them in case of extreme danger and invincible necessity,” &c.; I