The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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This inference, if there were not as well a necessity of the means as
there is of the event, might be allowed for true. But according to my
opinion, both the event and means are equally necessitated. But
supposing the inference true, it makes as much against him that denies
as against him that holds this necessity. For I believe the Bishop holds
for as certain a truth, _what shall be, shall be_, as _what is, is_, or
_what has been, has been_. And then the ratiocination of the sick man,
“If I shall recover, what need I this unsavoury potion? if I shall not
recover, what good will it do me?” is a good ratiocination. But the
Bishop holds, that it is necessary he shall recover or not recover.
Therefore it follows from an opinion of the Bishop’s, as well as from
mine, that medicine is superfluous. But as medicine is to health, so is
piety, consultation, arts, arms, books, instruments, and teachers, every
one to its several end. Out of the Bishop’s opinion it follows as well
as from mine, that medicine is superfluous to health. Therefore from his
opinion as well as from mine, it followeth, (if such ratiocination were
not unsound), that piety, consultation, &c. are also superfluous to
their respective ends. And for the superfluity of laws, whatsoever be
the truth of the question between us, they are not superfluous, because
by the punishing of one, or of a few unjust men, they are the cause of
justice in a great many.
But the greatest inconvenience of all that the Bishop pretends may be
drawn from this opinion, is, “that God in justice cannot punish a man
with eternal torments for doing that which it was never in his power to
leave undone.” It is true, that seeing the name of punishment hath
relation to the name of crime, there can be no punishment but for crimes
that might have been left undone; but instead of _punishment_ if he had
said _affliction_, may not I say that God may afflict, and not for sin?
Doth he not afflict those creatures that cannot sin? And sometimes those
that can sin, and yet not for sin, as Job, and the man in the gospel
that was born blind, for the manifestation of his power which he hath
over his creature, no less but more than hath the potter over his clay
to make of it what he please? But though God have power to afflict a man
and not for sin without injustice, shall we think God so cruel as to
afflict a man, and not for sin, with extreme and endless torment? Is it
not cruelty? No more than to do the same for sin, when he that so
afflicteth might without trouble have kept him from sinning. But what
infallible evidence hath the Bishop, that a man shall be after this life
eternally in torments and never die? Or how is it certain there is no
second death, when the Scripture saith there is? Or where doth the
Scripture say that a second death is an endless life? Or do the Doctors
only say it? Then perhaps they do but say so, and for reasons best known
to themselves. There is no injustice nor cruelty in him that giveth