The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
Thomas Hobbes · en
_J. D._ (_a_) “Though I be so unhappy that I can present no novelty to
T. H., yet I have this comfort, that if he be not surprised, then in
reason I may expect a more mature answer from him; and where he fails, I
may ascribe it to the weakness of his cause, not to want of preparation.
But in this cause I like Epictetus’s counsel well, that (_b_) the sheep
should not brag how much they have eaten, or what an excellent pasture
they do go in, but shew it in their lamb and wool. Opposite answers and
downright arguments advantage a cause. To tell what we have heard or
seen is to no purpose. When a respondent leaves many things untouched,
as if they were too hot for his fingers, and declines the weight of
other things, and alters the true state of the question, it is a shrewd
sign either that he hath not weighed all things maturely, or else that
he maintains a desperate cause.”
ANIMADVERSIONS UPON HIS REPLY NO. II.
(_a_) “Though I be so unhappy that I can present no novelty to T. H. yet
I have this comfort, that if he be not surprised, then in reason I may
expect a more mature answer from him,” &c.
Though I were not surprised, yet I do not see the reason for which he
saith he may expect a more mature answer from me; or any further answer
at all. For seeing I wrote this at his modest request, it is no modest
expectation to look for as many answers as he shall be pleased to exact.
(_b_) “The sheep should not brag how much they have eaten, but shew it
in their lamb and wool.”
It is no great bragging, to say I was not surprised; for whosoever
chanceth to read Suarez’s _Opuscula_, where he writeth of free-will and
of the concourse of God with man’s will, shall find the greatest part,
if not all, that the Bishop hath urged in this question. But that which
the Bishop hath said of the reasons and authorities which he saith in
his epistle do offer themselves to serve in this cause, and many other
passages of his book, I shall, I think, before I have done with him,
make appear to be very bragging, and nothing else. And though he say it
be Epictetus’s counsel, that sheep should shew what they eat in their
lamb and wool, it is not likely that Epictetus should take a metaphor
from lamb and wool; for it could not easily come into the mind of men
that were not acquainted with the paying of tithes. Or if it had, he
would have said lambs in the plural, as laymen use to speak. That which
follows of my leaving things untouched, and altering the state of the
question; I remember no such thing, unless he require that I should
answer, not to his arguments only, but also to his syllables.
NO. III.