The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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(_d_) “With a purpose to make a noise with declaiming against those who
dare dispute of the nature of God, that is, who dare set forth his
justice and his goodness, &c.” The Bishop will have much ado to make
good, that to dispute of the nature of God, is all one with setting
forth his justice and his goodness. He taketh no notice of these words
of mine, ‘pious men attribute to God Almighty for honour’s sake,
whatsoever they see is honourable in the world’; and yet this is setting
forth God’s justice, goodness, &c, without disputing of God’s nature.
(_e_) “In the flames of the true Tophet, that is hell.” The true Tophet
was a place not far from the walls of Jerusalem, and consequently on the
earth. I cannot imagine what he will say to this in his answer to my
_Leviathan_, if there he find the same, unless he say, that in this
place by the _true_ Tophet, he meant a _not true_ Tophet.
(_f_) “_This is life eternal_ (saith our Saviour) _to know the only true
God, and Jesus Christ_, &c.” This which followeth to the end of his
answer and of the book, is a reprehension of me, for saying that ‘true
religion consisteth in obedience to Christ’s lieutenants’. If it be
lawful for Christians to institute amongst themselves a commonwealth and
magistrates, whereby they may be able to live in peace one with another,
and unite themselves in defence against a foreign enemy; it will
certainly be necessary to make to themselves some supreme judge in all
controversies, to whom they ought all to give obedience. And this is no
such strange doctrine, nor so uncouth a phrase to Christian ears, as the
Bishop makes it, whatsoever it be to them that would make themselves
judges of the Supreme Judge himself. No; but, saith he, Christ is the
Supreme Judge, and we are not to obey men rather than God. Is there any
Christian man that does not acknowledge that we are to be judged by
Christ, or that we ought not to obey him rather than any man that shall
be his lieutenant upon earth? The question therefore is, not of who is
to be obeyed, but of what be his commands. If the Scripture contain his
commands, then may every Christian know by them what they are. And what
has the Bishop to do with what God says to me when I read them, more
than I have to do with what God says to him when he reads them, unless
he have authority given him by him whom Christ hath constituted his
lieutenant? This lieutenant upon earth, I say, is the supreme civil
magistrate, to whom belongeth the care and charge of seeing that no
doctrine may be taught the people, but such as may consist with the
general peace of them all, and with the obedience that is due to the
civil sovereign. In whom would the Bishop have the authority reside of
prohibiting seditious opinions, when they are taught (as they are often)
in divinity books and from the pulpit? I could hardly guess, but that I
remember that there have been books written to entitle the bishops to a
_divine right_, underived from the civil sovereign.