The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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_J. D._ “Secondly, this very persuasion that there is no true liberty,
is able to overthrow all societies and commonwealths in the world. The
laws are unjust, which prohibit that which a man cannot possibly shun.
All consultations are vain, if every thing be either necessary or
impossible. Who ever deliberated whether the sun should rise to-morrow,
or whether he should sail over mountains? It is to no more purpose to
admonish men of understanding than fools, children, or madmen, if all
things be necessary. Praises and dispraises, rewards and punishments,
are as vain as they are undeserved, if there be no liberty. All
counsels, arts, arms, books, instruments, are superfluous and foolish,
if there be no liberty. In vain we labour, in vain we study, in vain we
take physic, in vain we have tutors to instruct us, if all things come
to pass alike, whether we sleep or wake, whether we be idle or
industrious, by unalterable necessity. But it is said, that though
future events be certain, yet they are unknown to us: and therefore we
prohibit, deliberate, admonish, praise, dispraise, reward, punish,
study, labour, and use means. Alas! how should our not knowing of the
event, be a sufficient motive to us to use the means, so long as we
believe the event is already certainly determined, and can no more be
changed by all our endeavours, than we can stay the course of heaven
with our finger, or add a cubit to our stature? Suppose it be unknown,
yet it is certain. We cannot hope to alter the course of things by our
labours; let the necessary causes do their work, we have no remedy but
patience, and shrug up the shoulders. Either allow liberty, or destroy
all societies.”
_T. H._ The second argument is taken from certain inconveniences which
he thinks would follow such an opinion. It is true that ill use may be
made of it, and therefore your Lordship and J. D. ought, at my request,
to keep private that I say here of it. But the inconveniences are indeed
none; and what use soever be made of truth, yet truth is truth; and now
the question is, not what is fit to be preached, but what is true. The
first inconvenience he says is this, that laws which prohibit any action
are then unjust. The second, that all consultations are vain. The third,
that admonitions to men of understanding, are of no more use than to
fools, children, and madmen. The fourth, that praise, dispraise, reward,
and punishment, are in vain. The fifth, that counsels, arts, arms,
books, instruments, study, tutors, medicines, are in vain. To which
argument, expecting I should answer by saying, that the ignorance of the
event were enough to make us use means, he adds (as it were a reply to
my answer foreseen) these words: “Alas, how should our not knowing of
the event be a sufficient motive to make us use the means?” Wherein he
saith right; but my answer is not that which he expecteth. I answer,