The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11)
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_L._ Sir Edward Coke tells you the reason of it (_3 Inst. p. 107_). For
he defineth theft to be, by the common-law, a felonious and fraudulent
taking and carrying away, by any man or woman, of the mere personal
goods of another, not from the person, nor by night in the house of the
owner. From this definition, he argues thus, p. 109: Any kind of corn or
grain, growing upon the ground, is a personal chattel, and the executors
of the owner shall have them, though they be not severed; but yet no
larceny can be committed of them, because they are annexed to the
realty; so it is of grass standing on the ground, or of apples, or of
any fruit upon the trees, &c.; so it is of a box or chest of charters,
no larceny can be committed of them, because the charters concern the
realty, and the box or chest though it be of great value, yet shall it
be of the same nature the charters are of; _et omne magis dignum trahit
ad se minus_.
_P._ Is this definition drawn out of any statute, or is it in Bracton or
Littleton, or any other writer upon the science of the laws?
_L._ No, it is his own: and you may observe by the logic sentences
dispersed through his works, that he was a logician sufficient enough to
make a definition.
_P._ But if his definitions must be the rule of law, what is there that
he may not make felony or not felony, at his pleasure? But seeing it is
not statute law that he says, it must be very perfect reason, or else no
law at all; and to me it seems so far from reason, as I think it
ridiculous. But let us examine it. There can, says he, be no larceny of
corn, grass, or fruits that are growing, that is to say, they cannot be
stolen. But why? Because they concern the realty; that is, because they
concern the land. It is true, that the land cannot be stolen, nor the
right of a man’s tenure; but corn, and trees, and fruit, though growing,
may be cut down, and carried away secretly and feloniously, in contempt
and despite of the law. And are they not then stolen? And is there any
act which is feloniously committed, that is not more than trespass? Can
any man doubt of it, that understands the English tongue? It is true,
that if a man pretend a right to the land, and on that pretence take the
fruits thereof by way of taking possession of his own, it is no more
than a trespass, unless he conceal the taking of them. For in that one
case, he but puts the man that was in possession before, to exhibit his
complaint, which purpose is not felonious, but lawful; for nothing makes
a distinction between felony and not felony, but the purpose. I have
heard, that if a man slander another with stealing of a tree standing,
there lies no action for it. And that upon this ground: to steal a
standing tree is impossible; and that the cause of the impossibility is,
that a man’s freehold cannot be stolen; which is a very obvious fallacy.
For freehold signifieth, not only the tenement, but also the tenure; and