Interim : $b Pilgrimage, Volume 5 — John Stuart Mill — John Shaqi
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"And not only warm them but light them. My word when they take you out
of their warm parlours into cold corridors and land you in an ice-house
with a little bit of a flickering candle."
"You're not tempted to read in bed and you go to sleep in healthy
bracing air; it keeps you _hardy_."
"Do you never read after you retire?"
"I do; and have the gas and a lamp to keep warm. I like warm rooms and I
think in many ways it must be lovely to be able to wear muslin dresses
indoors in snowy weather and put on a fur coat to go out; but I should
be sorry to see the American warm house idea introduced into England."
"You're willing to be inconsistent then."
"Consistency is the something of something minds."
"I guess our central-heated residences would appeal to you."
"I know they would. But I should freeze in the winter; because I
shouldn't be able to wear a fur coat."
"How so?"
"I'm an anti-vivisectionist."
"Then you'd best stay where they're not needed. Your winters don't call
for them. It's the funniest thing in _life_ the way your wimmun go
around in furs."
"Furs are frightfully becoming; like lace and violets."
"Then you exonerate them although you're against the slaying evidently,
as well as the use of beasts for experiment."
"They don't think."
"My word that's true; but all the thinking in creation won't keep an
Esquimau warm without furs."
"There's no need for anyone to live up there. The Hudson's Bay
Commissioners are tradespeople."
"That's a big proposition."
"Well?"
"You'd advocate everyone living in temperate climes to spare the
beasts?"
"There's no reason except trade for anyone to live in snow."
"There's a mighty except."
"Well?"
"What about phthisical subjects who need dry cold climes?"
"Wool and astrakhan."
"Well I guess furs'll be worn for a bit yet."
"That doesn't affect the question."
"I gather you reckon the beasts oughtn't help advance science."
"They don't. Doctors are as ill as anybody."
"True enough. You consider that invalidates medical science?"
"Of course they are over-worked and many of them splendid. But illness
doesn't decrease. If one disease goes down another goes up."
"Great _Cæsar_, where did you come across that?"
"Even so; but suppose they _all_ went up?"
"Besides, you talk about animals advancing science. Even if there wasn't
that great French physiologist or chemist or something who looked at the
result of experiments on animals and said hélàs, nous avons les mains
vides. He declared that there's nothing to be learned about _human_
bodies from animals and even if there were the thing is that the animals
have no choice. We've no right to force them to suffer."
"An animal's constituted differently to a man. You can't compare them in
the matter of sensitiveness to pain."
"I knew you'd say that. If people really want to advance science by
experiments on bodies they should offer their own bodies."
"Someone's been working on your mind if you believe animals suffer more
than men."