The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
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in this? Has a philosopher like you failed to discover that
our country is more to be valued and higher and holier far
than mother or father or any ancestor, and more to be regarded
in the eyes of the gods and of men of understanding?
also to be soothed, and gently and reverently entreated when
angry, even more than a father, and either to be persuaded,
or if not persuaded, to be obeyed? And when we are
punished by her, whether with imprisonment or stripes, the
punishment is to be endured in silence; and if she lead us
to wounds or death in battle, thither we follow as is right;
neither may any one yield or retreat or leave his rank, but
whether in battle or in a court of law, or in any other place,
he must do what his city and his country order him; or he
must change their view of what is just: and if he may do no
violence to his father or mother, much less may he do
violence to his country.’ What answer shall we make to
this, Crito? Do the laws speak truly, or do they not?
_Cr._ I think that they do.
[Sidenote: _‘Listen to us, Socrates.’_]
[Sidenote: The Laws argue that he has made an implied agreement with them
which he is not at liberty to break at his pleasure.]
_Soc._ Then the laws will say: ‘Consider, Socrates, if we
are speaking truly that in your present attempt you are
going to do us an injury. For, having brought you into
the world, and nurtured and educated you, and given you
and every other citizen a share in every good which we had
to give, we further proclaim to any Athenian by the liberty
which we allow him, that if he does not like us when he has
become of age and has seen the ways of the city, and made
our acquaintance, he may go where he pleases and take his
goods with him. None of us laws will forbid him or interfere
with him. Any one who does not like us and the city, and
who wants to emigrate to a colony or to any other city, may
go where he likes, retaining his property. But he who has
experience of the manner in which we order justice and
administer the state, and still remains, has entered into an
implied contract that he will do as we command him. And
he who disobeys us is, as we maintain, thrice wrong; first,
because in disobeying us he is disobeying his parents;
secondly, because we are the authors of his education;
thirdly, because he has made an agreement with us that he
will duly obey our commands; and he neither obeys them 52
nor convinces us that our commands are unjust; and we do
not rudely impose them, but give him the alternative of
obeying or convincing us;—that is what we offer, and he
does neither.
[Sidenote: _The address of the Laws._]