The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions — Plato — John Shaqi
The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
Plato · en
And having neither more nor less of harmony or of discord,
one soul has no more vice or virtue than another, if
vice be discord and virtue harmony?
Not at all more.
Or speaking more correctly, Simmias, the soul, if she is a 94
harmony, will never have any vice; because a harmony,
being absolutely a harmony, has no part in the inharmonical.
No.
[Sidenote: If the soul is a harmony, all souls must be equally good.]
And therefore a soul which is absolutely a soul has no
vice?
How can she have, if the previous argument holds?
Then, if all souls are equally by their nature souls, all
souls of all living creatures will be equally good?
I agree with you, Socrates, he said.
And can all this be true, think you? he said; for these
are the consequences which seem to follow from the assumption
that the soul is a harmony?
It cannot be true.
Once more, he said, what ruler is there of the elements of
human nature other than the soul, and especially the wise
soul? Do you know of any?
Indeed, I do not.
And is the soul in agreement with the affections of the
body? or is she at variance with them? For example, when
the body is hot and thirsty, does not the soul incline us
against drinking? and when the body is hungry, against
eating? And this is only one instance out of ten thousand of
the opposition of the soul to the things of the body.
Very true.
[Sidenote: _Enough of Harmonia._]
But we have already acknowledged that the soul, being a
harmony, can never utter a note at variance with the tensions
and relaxations and vibrations and other affections of the
strings out of which she is composed; she can only follow,
she cannot lead them?
It must be so, he replied.
[Sidenote: The soul leads and does not follow. She constrains and
reprimands the passions.]
And yet do we not now discover the soul to be doing the
exact opposite—leading the elements of which she is believed
to be composed; almost always opposing and coercing them
in all sorts of ways throughout life, sometimes more violently
with the pains of medicine and gymnastic; then again more
gently; now threatening, now admonishing the desires,
passions, fears, as if talking to a thing which is not herself,
as Homer in the Odyssey represents Odysseus doing in the
words—
‘He beat his breast, and thus reproached his heart:
Endure, my heart; far worse hast thou endured!’
Do you think that Homer wrote this under the idea that the
soul is a harmony capable of being led by the affections of
the body, and not rather of a nature which should lead and
master them—herself a far diviner thing than any harmony?
Yes, Socrates, I quite think so.