The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions — Plato — John Shaqi
The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
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_Soc._ It will be no easy matter, but I will try to please
you to the utmost of my power. Suppose that you call
one of your numerous attendants, that I may demonstrate
on him.
_Men._ Certainly. Come hither, boy.
_Soc._ He is Greek, and speaks Greek, does he not?
_Men._ Yes, indeed; he was born in the house.
_Soc._ Attend now to the questions which I ask him, and
observe whether he learns of me or only remembers.
_Men._ I will.
_Soc._ Tell me, boy, do you know that a figure like this
is a square?
_Boy._ I do.
_Soc._ And you know that a square figure has these four
lines equal?
_Boy._ Certainly.
_Soc._ And these lines which I have drawn through the
middle of the square are also equal?
_Boy._ Yes.
_Soc._ A square may be of any size?
_Boy._ Certainly.
_Soc._ And if one side of the figure be of two feet, and the
other side be of two feet, how much will the whole be? Let
me explain: if in one direction the space was of two feet,
and in the other direction of one foot, the whole would
be of two feet taken once?
_Boy._ Yes.
[Sidenote: _Socrates and the boy._]
_Soc._ But since this side is also of two feet, there are twice
two feet?
_Boy._ There are.
_Soc._ Then the square is of twice two feet?
_Boy._ Yes.
_Soc._ And how many are twice two feet? count and tell me.
_Boy._ Four, Socrates.
_Soc._ And might there not be another square twice as large
as this, and having like this the lines equal?
_Boy._ Yes.
_Soc._ And of how many feet will that be?
_Boy._ Of eight feet.
_Soc._ And now try and tell me the length of the line which
forms the side of that double square: this is two feet—what
will that be?
_Boy._ Clearly, Socrates, it will be double.
[Sidenote: He is partly guessing.]
_Soc._ Do you observe, Meno, that I am not teaching the
boy anything, but only asking him questions; and now
he fancies that he knows how long a line is necessary in
order to produce a figure of eight square feet; does he not?
_Men._ Yes.
_Soc._ And does he really know?
_Men._ Certainly not.
_Soc._ He only guesses that because the square is double,
the line is double.
_Men._ True.
_Soc._ Observe him while he recalls the steps in regular
order. (_To the Boy._) Tell me, boy, do you assert that a 83
double space comes from a double line? Remember that
I am not speaking of an oblong, but of a figure equal every
way, and twice the size of this—that is to say of eight feet;
and I want to know whether you still say that a double
square comes from a double line?
_Boy._ Yes.
_Soc._ But does not this line become doubled if we add
another such line here?
_Boy._ Certainly.
_Soc._ And four such lines will make a space containing
eight feet?
_Boy._ Yes.