The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum — Plato — John Shaqi
The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
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though I very well know that by so doing I shall expose myself to odium.
This however is a proof that I speak the truth, and that this is the
nature of the calumny against me, and that these are its causes. And if
you will investigate the matter, either now or hereafter, you will find
it to be so.
11. With respect then to the charges which my first accusers have
alleged against me, let this be a sufficient apology to you. To Melitus,
that good and patriotic man, as he says, and to my later accusers, I
will next endeavour to give an answer; and here again, as there are
different accusers let us take up their deposition. It is pretty much as
follows: “Socrates,” it says, “acts unjustly in corrupting the youth,
and in not believing in those gods in whom the city believes, but in
other strange divinities.” Such is the accusation; let us examine each
particular of it. It says that I act unjustly in corrupting the youth.
But I, O Athenians, say that Melitus acts unjustly, because he jests on
serious subjects, rashly putting men upon trial, under pretence of being
zealous and solicitous about things in which he never at any time took
any concern. But that this is the case I will endeavour to prove to you.
12. Come then, Melitus, tell me; do you not consider it of the greatest
importance that the youth should be made as virtuous as possible?
_Mel._ I do.
_Socr._ Well now, tell the judges who it is that makes them better, for
it is evident that you know, since it concerns you so much: for, having
detected me in corrupting them, as you say, you have cited me here and
accused me; come then, say, and inform the judges who it is that makes
them better. Do you see, Melitus, that you are silent, and have nothing
to say? But does it not appear to you to be disgraceful and a sufficient
proof of what I say, that you never took any concern about the matter?
But tell me, friend, who makes them better?
_Mel._ The laws.
_Socr._ I do not ask this, most excellent sir, but what man, who surely
must first know this very thing, the laws?
_Mel._ These, Socrates, the judges.
_Socr._ How say you, Melitus? Are these able to instruct the youth, and
make them better?
_Mel._ Certainly.
_Socr._ Whether all, or some of them, and others not?
_Mel._ All.
_Socr._ You say well, by Juno, and have found a great abundance of those
that confer benefit. But what further? Can these hearers make them
better, or not?
_Mel._ They too can.
_Socr._ And what of the senators?
_Mel._ The senators also.
_Socr._ But, Melitus, do those who attend the public assemblies corrupt
the younger men? or do they all make them better?
_Mel._ They too.
_Socr._ All the Athenians therefore, as it seems, make them honourable
and good, except me, but I alone corrupt them. Do you say so?
_Mel._ I do assert this very thing.