The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
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22. What do you think of the speech, Socrates? Does it not appear to you
to be wonderfully composed in other respects, and especially as to the
language?
_Socr._ Divinely indeed, my friend, so much so that I am amazed. And I
had this feeling through you, Phædrus, by looking at you, for you
appeared to me to be enraptured with the speech while you were reading
it. For supposing you to understand such matters better than I do, I
followed you, and, in following you, I felt the same enthusiasm with
you, my inspired friend.
_Phæ._ Well; do you think proper to jest in this manner?
_Socr._ Do I appear to you to jest, and not to be in earnest?
_Phæ._ Don’t, Socrates! But tell me truly, by Jupiter the god of
friendship, do you think that any other man in Greece could speak more
ably and fully than this on the same subject?
23. _Socr._ But what? ought the speech to be praised by you and me for
this reason, that its composer has said what he ought, and not only
because every word is clear, and rounded, and accurately polished off?
For, if it ought, it may be granted for your sake, since it escaped me
by reason of my nothingness: for I attended only to its rhetoric, but
this I did not think that even Lysias himself would think sufficient.
And to me, indeed, it seemed, Phædrus, unless you say otherwise, that he
has repeated the same things twice and thrice, as if he had not the
faculty of saying much on the same subject, or perhaps he did not care
about this. Moreover he appeared to me to make a wanton display of his
ability to express these things in different ways, and both ways most
elegantly.
24. _Phæ._ You say nothing to the purpose, Socrates: for the speech has
this very merit in the highest degree. For he has omitted nothing
belonging to his subject, which was worthy to be mentioned: so that,
beyond what has been said by him, no one could ever say more things or
of greater weight.
_Socr._ On this point I am no longer able to agree with you; for the
ancient and wise, both men and women, who have spoken and written on
this subject, would confute me, if I were to admit this out of
compliment to you.
_Phæ._ Who are they? and where have you heard better things than these?
_Socr._ I am unable to say on the moment; but I am sure that I have
heard them from some one or other, either from the beautiful Sappho, or
the wise Anacreon, or some other writer. Whence do I form this
conjecture? some how or other, my divine friend, my breast is full, and
I feel that I could say other things in addition to those and not
inferior to them. That I understand none of them of myself, I am well
aware, being conscious of my ignorance. It remains then, I think, that I
must have filled myself, like a vessel, by means of hearing, from some
foreign source; but owing to my stupidity I have forgotten even this,
both how and from whom I heard it.