The Golden Sayings of Epictetus, with the Hymn of CleanthesEpictetus
Religion
The Golden Sayings of Epictetus, with the Hymn of Cleanthes
Epictetus
Philosophy; Stoics
“And are all profited by what they hear, or only some among them? So
that it seems there is an art of hearing as well as of speaking. . . .
To make a statue needs skill: to view a statue aright needs skill
also.”
“Admitted.”
“And I think all will allow that one who proposes to hear philosophers
speak needs a considerable training in hearing. Is that not so? The
tell me on what subject your are able to _hear_ me.”
“Why, on good and evil.”
“The good and evil of what? a horse, an ox?”
“No; of a man.”
“Do we know then what Man is? what his nature is? what is the idea we
have of him? And are our _ears_ practised in any degree on the subject?
Nay, do you understand what Nature is? can you follow me in any degree
when I say that I shall have to use demonstration? Do you understand
what Demonstration is? what True or False is? . . . must I _drive_ you
to Philosophy? . . . Show me what good I am to do by discoursing with
you. Rouse my desire to do so. The sight of a pasture it loves stirs in
a sheep the desire to feed: show it a stone or a bit of bread and it
remains unmoved. Thus we also have certain natural desires, aye, and
one that moves us to speak when we find a listener that is worth his
salt: one that himself stirs the spirit. But if he sits by like a stone
or a tuft of grass, how can he rouse a man’s desire?”
“Then you will say nothing to me?”
“I can only tell you this: that one who knows not who he is and to what
end he was born; what kind of world this is and with whom he is
associated therein; one who cannot distinguish Good and Evil, Beauty
and Foulness, . . . Truth and Falsehood, will never follow Reason in
shaping his desires and impulses and repulsions, nor yet in assent,
denial, or suspension of judgement; but will in one word go about deaf
and blind, thinking himself to be somewhat, when he is in truth of no
account. Is there anything new in all this? Is not this ignorance the
cause of all the mistakes and mischances of men since the human race
began? . . .”
“This is all I have to say to you, and even this against the grain.
Why? Because you have not stirred my spirit. For what can I see in you
to stir me, as a spirited horse will stir a judge of horses? Your body?
That you maltreat. Your dress? That is luxurious. You behavior, your
look?—Nothing whatever. When you want to hear a philosopher, do not
say, You say nothing to me’; only show yourself worthy or fit to
_hear_, and then you will see how you will move the speaker.”
LXXXII
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