The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
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army on which ever side, will be the despot of America. This
consideration renders him particularly anxious that the Executive should
be properly constituted. The vice here would not, as in some other parts
of the system be curable. It is the most difficult of all rightly to
balance the Executive. Make him too weak: The Legislature will usurp his
powers. Make him too strong. He will usurp on the Legislature. He
preferred a short period, a re-eligibility, but a different mode of
election. A long period would prevent an adoption of the plan: it ought
to do so. He sh^d himself be afraid to trust it. He was not prepared to
decide on M^r Wilson's mode of election just hinted by him. He thought
it deserved consideration. It would be better that chance sh^d decide
than intrigue.
On a question to postpone the consideration of the Resolution on the
subject of the Executive
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t ay. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. div^d.
M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
M^r Wilson then moved that the Executive be chosen every ---- years by
---- Electors to be taken by lot from the Nat^t Legislature who shall
proceed immediately to the choice of the Executive and not separate
until it be made."
M^r Carrol 2^{ds} the motion.
M^r Gerry. This is committing too much to chance. If the lot should fall
on a sett of unworthy men, an unworthy Executive must be saddled on the
Country. He thought it had been demonstrated that no possible mode of
electing by the Legislature could be a good one.
M^r King. The lot might fall on a majority from the same State which w^d
ensure the election of a man from that State. We ought to be governed by
reason, not by chance. As nobody seemed to be satisfied, he wished the
matter to be postponed.
M^r Wilson did not move this as the best mode. His opinion remained
unshaken that we ought to resort to the people for the election. He
seconded the postponement.
M^r Gov^r Morris observed that the chances were almost infinite ag^{st}
a majority of Electors from the same State.
On a question whether the last motion was in order, it was determined in
the affirmative: 7 ays. 4 noes.
On the question of postponem^t it was agreed to nem. con.
M^r Carrol took occasion to observe that he considered the clause
declaring that direct taxation on the States should be in proportion to
representation, previous to the obtaining an actual census, as very
objectionable, and that he reserved to himself the right of opposing it,
if the Report of the Committee of detail should leave it in the plan.
M^r Gov^r Morris hoped the Committee would strike out the whole of the
clause proportioning direct taxation to representation. He had only
meant it as a bridge[10] to assist us over a certain gulph; having
passed the gulph the bridge may be removed. He thought the principle
laid down with so much strictness, liable to strong objections.
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