The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
qualifications should be required; few of the mercantile, & scarcely any
of the manufacturing class chusing whilst they continue in business to
turn any part of their Stock into landed property. For these reasons he
wished if it were possible that some other criterion than the mere
possession of land should be devised. He concurred with M^r Gov^r Morris
in thinking that qualifications in the Electors would be much more
effectual than in the elected. The former would discriminate between
real & ostensible property in the latter; But he was aware of the
difficulty of forming any uniform standard that would suit the different
circumstances & opinions prevailing in the different States.
M^r Gov^r Morris 2^{ded} the motion.
On the Question for striking out "landed"
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d no.
V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
On Question on 1^{st} part of Col. Masons proposition as to
"qualification of property & citizenship," as so amended
N. H. ay. Mas^{ts} ay. C^t no. N. J. ay. P^a no. Del. no.
M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
"The 2^d part, for disqualifying debtors, and persons having unsettled
accounts," being under consideration
M^r Carrol moved to strike out "having unsettled accounts"
M^r Ghorum seconded the motion; observing that it would put the
commercial & manufacturing part of the people on a worse footing than
others as they would be most likely to have dealings with the public.
M^r L. Martin, if these words should be struck out, and the remaining
words concerning debtors retained, it will be the interest of the latter
class to keep their accounts unsettled as long as possible.
M^r Wilson was for striking them out. They put too much power in the
hands of the Auditors, who might combine with rivals in delaying
settlements in order to prolong the disqualifications of particular men.
We should consider that we are providing a Constitution for future
generations, and not merely for the peculiar circumstances of the
moment. The time has been, and will again be, when the public safety may
depend on the voluntary aids of individuals which will necessarily open
acc^{ts} with the public, and when such acc^{ts} will be a
characteristic of patriotism. Besides a partial enumeration of cases
will disable the Legislature from disqualifying odious & dangerous
characters.
M^r Langdon[13] was for striking out the whole clause for the reasons
given by M^r Wilson. So many exclusions he thought too would render the
system unacceptable to the people.
[13] "M^r Langdon is a man of considerable fortune, possesses a
liberal mind, and a good plain understanding--about 40 years
old."--Pierce's Notes, _Am. Hist. Rev._, iii., 325.
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