Chief BATCHELOR. Nobody but Chief Curry, that I recall, and probably Chief Stevenson. As a matter of fact, this route that they were to take was worked out more between Stevenson and Curry and Fritz than it was with me. My primary job here was to get the truck and get the cars placed, and it was decided that Chief Curry would lead the car down there, followed by a car of detectives, and then the armored car, and then followed by another car of detectives, and then followed by Stevenson and I in a rear car. Mr. GRIFFIN. This planned route of the movement was to go from Commerce to Central Expressway, left to Elm Street, then down Elm Street? Chief BATCHELOR. To Houston; yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now as a result of that decision, were any cars or officers called in from the field? Chief BATCHELOR. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who? Chief BATCHELOR. Talbert called his officers in. He had called and scattered them up. And then there was some discussion about taking it down Main Street, and I am not too sure where I got this information, but anyway, he sent a sergeant and moved those officers over a block to Main Street. Mr. GRIFFIN. Why was the route changed? Chief BATCHELOR. Well, I don't know. The route was changed without my knowing it, really. When they decided to take Oswald in an automobile instead of the armored car. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who participated in that decision? Chief BATCHELOR. Chief Curry, Chief Stevenson, Captain Fritz, I believe--I was not in there when it was discussed. Mr. GRIFFIN. After you talked to Fleming the second time what did you do? Chief BATCHELOR. Then he said he would send them over, and we went down there to get the cars lined up. This must have been, oh, probably 10:45, 10:30 to 10:45. I went downstairs and I saw the basement well covered. We had a man at the top of the ramp on Main Street. We had several men in the basement leading into the garage area just before you get to the jail office, and I went through there, and Stevenson was with me. Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me interrupt you here, Chief. I think I will pull out another map so that we can mark it. I am going to mark this map, for the purpose of identification, "Dallas, Tex., Chief Batchelor, March 23, 1964, Deposition Exhibit 5001." Now I want you to use this exhibit, Chief, to indicate what you saw on this second trip downstairs, which you indicated would be what time? Chief BATCHELOR. I came out of the elevator into the basement and saw a number of officers across this area right here. There were several detectives. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you mark that with "X's"? Chief BATCHELOR. [Marking.] Detective there. We walked through here. We noticed these cameras had been moved out. Mr. GRIFFIN. You are talking about the passageway past the jail office? Chief BATCHELOR. Past this jail office here. I noticed that inside the jail office there were three or four photographers inside the jail office.