Mr. GRIFFIN. And before that you worked for? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. The Board of Local Improvements for a couple of years, sidewalk investigator. Mr. GRIFFIN. So that would have taken you back to 1930 perhaps? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. About 1930 or even 1929. I will tell you why. As long as we had connections in Chicago and things were tough, you know 1929 was a bad year, you wouldn’t remember, but I would, as long as you had a letter from somebody downtown they were reevaluating all the real estate in Cook County. Now, you know that is a tremendous job, fellows, and so I got on. They weren’t paying us too much in salary, but every morning I had to meet two real estate men, and I measured the buildings, the length and the width and the lot, and the stories and we gave a legal description of the building, reevaluation. That kept on for about a year. That was a pretty good job with the Board of Review. So that also kept a lot of us fellows from starving. That was before the Board of Local Improvements. In the meantime I still kept my fingers in the politics on the good side with the Democrats in Chicago. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before you worked for the Board of Local Improvements did you have any government or city or political jobs before that? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I am telling you that was it. Mr. GRIFFIN. That was the first one. The Board of Local Improvements was the first one? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No, the Board of Review. Mr. GRIFFIN. So you worked for the Illinois Commerce Commission in 1932, you worked for the Board of Local Improvements---- Mr. RUBENSTEIN. About 1930, and 1929 or 1928, I believe I worked for the Board of Review. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, between approximately 1922 when you got out of school and 1928 what did you do during that period? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Worked as a cab driver, worked in a drugstore. I went on the road as a salesman in 1925. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did you sell for? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. The Plymouth Rubber Co. of Canton, Mass. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you sell? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Rubber heels to shoemakers. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you travel? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. All over the United States. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you do that? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. A couple of years, I think. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to leave that job? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I was a missionary man. They broke me in, they tried to make a salesman out of me and they did, because I done a good job for them and I worked hard. I liked it, I liked it for two reasons. Traveling and selling and when you can sell you felt like a moral victory, you felt that you had a station in life, something to do. The job just ended. I covered the territory they wanted me to cover. I went from Chicago to the west coast, Vancouver, Canada, all over the west coast, all through the Middle West. I don’t think I covered--no, never went south. I didn’t go south, no. We didn’t cover it. We just covered the west, kept on going west and west and over to the west coast and up to Vancouver.