Mr. GRIFFIN. Let’s now shift the focus a little bit and rather talk about yourself. Now let me ask you some questions about your family, your early family life. Was there any discussion in your home as a child of the background of your parents--where they had come from, what they had done before they had come to this country? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. My father was a soldier in the Russian Army for about 7 years. If you know the history of the Russian people, one member of each family must serve, one member. My father was elected to serve. Mr. GRIFFIN. Let’s just talk about your father for a minute. As you understand it where was your father born? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Sokolov, a small town outside of Warsaw. Mr. GRIFFIN. What kind of family did he come from, do you have any idea? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Very nice family, good reputation. His father before him was a carpenter, his brother Abraham was a carpenter. Very well respected. Mr. GRIFFIN. How many brothers and sisters did he have? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t know, I don’t know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did any of his family come to the United States other than him? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. His brother. Mr. GRIFFIN. Abraham? When did Abraham come? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before or after your father? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I think after. Mr. GRIFFIN. Is Abraham still alive? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Does he have a family that is still living? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; he has a son, a doctor, Dr. Hyman Rubenstein, and he has got about three or four sisters, very nice, family. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where do they live? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. On the north side. Mr. GRIFFIN. They are living in Chicago? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. In Chicago. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see this family from time to time as you were children? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Very, not as regularly as we should. We should have seen them oftener but we didn’t. Mr. GRIFFIN. About how often would you say? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Once a year. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was your father trained as a carpenter? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; in the army. Mr. GRIFFIN. How old was he when he went in the army? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He was a young man, very young. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know what rank he attained? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. According to the thing on his hat for the uniform it was a No. 2, and he always used to get in trouble with the captain, but he always would get right with the captain’s wife, he would always make something for her, a cradle or a chair or something to even up the score. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he tell you any of his adventures, where he was? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He was in China, but he didn’t like it. He was in Korea and he didn’t like it. He was in Siberia and he hated it most of all. He broke away from the army. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did he happen to leave? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He just left; walked away, walked away; went over to England; from England he went to Canada; from Canada he came to the United States. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, when he married your mother was he in the service?