The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
Thomas Hobbes · en
(_a_) “Now again he tells us, that election is not opposite to either
necessitation or compulsion. He might even as well tell us, that a stone
thrown upwards moves naturally, or that a woman can be ravished with her
own will. Consent takes away the rape,” &c. If that which I have told
him again, be false, why shows he not why it is false? Here is not one
word of argument against it. To say, I might have said as well that a
stone thrown upwards moves naturally, is no refutation, but a denial. I
will not dispute with him, whether a stone thrown up move naturally or
not. I shall only say to those readers whose judgments are not defaced
with the abuse of words, that as a stone moveth not upwards of itself,
but by the power of the external agent who giveth it a beginning of that
motion; so also when the stone falleth, it is moved downward by the
power of some other agent, which, though it be imperceptible to the eye,
is not imperceptible to reason. But because this is not proper discourse
for the Bishop, and because I have elsewhere discoursed thereof
expressly, I shall say nothing of it here. And whereas he says, ‘consent
takes away the rape’; it may perhaps be true, and I think it is; but
here it not only inferreth nothing, but was also needless, and therefore
in a public writing is an indecent instance, though sometimes not
unnecessary in a spiritual court. In the next place, he wonders how “a
man is compelled, and yet free to do what he will”; that is to say, how
a man is made to will, and yet free to do what he will. If he had said,
he wondered how a man can be compelled to will, and yet be free to do
that which he would have done if he had not been compelled, it had been
somewhat; as it is, it is nothing. Again he says, “he who submits to an
enemy for saving his life, doth either only counterfeit, or else his
will is changed,” &c.: all which is true. But when he says he doth
counterfeit, he doth not insinuate that he may counterfeit lawfully; for
that would prejudice him hereafter, in case he should have need of
quarter. But how this maketh for him, or against me, I perceive not.
“There is a vast difference,” saith he, “between compelling and changing
the will. Either God or man may change the will of man, either by
varying the condition of things, or by informing the party otherwise;
but compelled it cannot be,” &c. I say the same; the will cannot be
compelled; but the man may be, and is then compelled, when his will is
changed by the fear of force, punishment, or other hurt from God or man.
And when his will is changed, there is a new will formed, (whether it be
by God or man), and that necessarily; and consequently the actions that
flow from that will, are both voluntary, free, and necessary,
notwithstanding that he was compelled to do them. Which maketh not for
the Bishop, but for me.