The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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“These grounds being laid for clearing the true sense of the words, the
next thing to be examined is, that contradiction which he hath espied in
my discourse, or how this argument fights against his fellows. ‘If I,’
saith T. H., ‘make it appear, that the spontaneous actions of fools,
children, madmen, and beasts, do proceed from election and deliberation,
and that inconsiderate and indeliberate actions are found in the wisest
men, then this argument concludes that necessity and election may stand
together, which is contrary to his assertion.’ If this could be made
appear as easily as it is spoken, it would concern himself much, who,
when he should prove that rational men are not free from necessity, goes
about to prove that brute beasts do deliberate and elect, that is as
much as to say, are free from necessity. But it concerns not me at all;
it is neither my assertion nor my opinion, that necessity and election
may not meet together in the same subject; violent, natural,
spontaneous, and deliberate or elective acts may all meet together in
the same subject. But this I say, that necessity and election cannot
consist together in the same act. He who is determined to one, is not
free to choose out of more than one. To begin with his latter
supposition, ‘that wise men may do inconsiderate and indeliberate
actions,’ I do readily admit it. But where did he learn to infer a
general conclusion from particular premises; as thus, because wise men
do some indeliberate acts, therefore no act they do is free or elective?
Secondly, for his former supposition, ‘that fools, children, madmen, and
beasts, do deliberate and elect,’ if he could make it good, it is not I
who contradict myself, nor fight against mine own assertion, but it is
he who endeavours to prove that which I altogether deny. He may well
find a contradiction between him and me; otherwise to what end is this
dispute? But he shall not be able to find a difference between me and
myself. But the truth is, he is not able to prove any such thing; and
that brings me to my sixth consideration, that neither horses, nor bees,
nor spiders, nor children, nor fools, nor madmen do deliberate or elect.