The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 05 (of 11)
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Again he observes not, that the action of a man that is not a child, in
public judgment how rash, inconsiderate, and sudden soever it be, it is
to be taken for deliberation; because it is supposed, he ought to have
considered and compared his intended action with the law; when,
nevertheless, that sudden and indeliberate action was truly voluntary.
Another contradiction which he finds is this, that having undertaken to
prove “that children before they have the use of reason do deliberate
and elect,” I say by and by after a “child may be so young as to do what
he doth without all deliberation.” I yet see no contradiction here; for
a child may be so young, as that the appetite thereof is its first
appetite, but afterward and often before it come to have the use of
reason, may elect one thing and refuse another, and consider the
consequences of what it is about to do. And why not as well as beasts,
which never have the use of reason; for they deliberate, as men do? For
though men and beasts do differ in many things very much, yet they
differ not in the nature of their deliberation. A man can reckon by
words of general signification, make propositions, and syllogisms, and
compute in numbers, magnitudes, proportions, and other things
computable; which being done by the advantage of language, and words of
general significations, a beast that hath not language cannot do, nor a
man that hath language, if he misplace the words, that are his counters.
From hence to the end of this number, he discourseth again of
spontaneity, and how it is in children, madmen, and beasts; which, as I
before resolved, I will not meddle with; let the reader think and judge
of it as he pleaseth.
NO. IX.
[Sidenote: The Bishop’s reply.]
_J. D._ “Secondly, (_a_) they who might have done, and may do, many
things which they leave undone; and they who leave undone many things
which they might do, are neither compelled nor necessitated to do what
they do, but have true liberty. But we might do many things which we do
not, and we do many things which we might leave undone, as is plain, (1
Kings iii. 11): _Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked
for thyself long life, neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast
asked the life of thine enemies_ &c. God gave Solomon his choice. He
might have asked riches, but then he had not asked wisdom, which he did
ask. He did ask wisdom, but he might have asked riches, which yet he did
not ask. And (Acts v. 4): _After it was sold, was it not in thine own
power?_ It was in his own power to give it, and it was in his own power
to retain it. Yet if he did give it, he could not retain it; and if he
did retain it, he could not give it. Therefore we may do, what we do
not. And we do not, what we might do. That is, we have true liberty from
necessity.”