The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions — Plato — John Shaqi
The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
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_Soc._ And were we not saying just now that justice, temperance,
and the like, were each of them a part of virtue?
_Men._ Yes.
_Soc._ And so, Meno, this is the way in which you mock me.
_Men._ Why do you say that, Socrates?
_Soc._ Why, because I asked you to deliver virtue into my
hands whole and unbroken, and I gave you a pattern according
to which you were to frame your answer; and you have
forgotten already, and tell me that virtue is the power of
attaining good justly, or with justice; and justice you acknowledge
to be a part of virtue.
_Men._ Yes.
_Soc._ Then it follows from your own admissions, that virtue
is doing what you do with a part of virtue; for justice and
the like are said by you to be parts of virtue.
[Sidenote: But if we do not know the nature of virtue as a whole, how can
we know what a part of virtue is?]
_Men._ What of that?
_Soc._ What of that! Why, did not I ask you to tell me the
nature of virtue as a whole? And you are very far from
telling me this; but declare every action to be virtue which is
done with a part of virtue; as though you had told me and I
must already know the whole of virtue, and this too when
frittered away into little pieces. And, therefore, my dear
Meno, I fear that I must begin again and repeat the same
question: What is virtue? for otherwise, I can only say, that
every action done with a part of virtue is virtue; what else
is the meaning of saying that every action done with justice
is virtue? Ought I not to ask the question over again; for
can any one who does not know virtue know a part of
virtue?
_Men._ No; I do not say that he can.
_Soc._ Do you remember how, in the example of figure, we
rejected any answer given in terms which were as yet unexplained
or unadmitted?
_Men._ Yes, Socrates; and we were quite right in doing so.
_Soc._ But then, my friend, do not suppose that we can
explain to any one the nature of virtue as a whole through
some unexplained portion of virtue, or anything at all in that
fashion; we should only have to ask over again the old
question, What is virtue? Am I not right?
_Men._ I believe that you are.
_Soc._ Then begin again, and answer me, What, according to
you and your friend Gorgias, is the definition of virtue?
[Sidenote: _The torpedo’s shock._]
[Sidenote: Meno compares Socrates to a torpedo whose touch has taken away
his sense and speech.]