The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
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_Socr._ What then? On the departure of the enemy which appeared to you
to rejoice the more, the cowards or the brave?
_Cal._ Both appeared to me to rejoice more: or, if not, in nearly the
same degree.
_Socr._ It is of no consequence. Cowards, then, also rejoice?
_Cal._ Very much so.
_Socr._ And the foolish, as it seems?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ But, when the enemy approaches, do cowards only grieve? or do
the brave also?
_Cal._ Both.
_Socr._ In an equal degree?
_Cal._ Cowards perhaps more.
_Socr._ But, when the enemy departs, do they not rejoice more?
_Cal._ Perhaps so.
_Socr._ Do not, therefore, as you say, the foolish and the wise, cowards
and the brave, similarly grieve and rejoice, much in the same degree,
but cowards more than the brave?
_Cal._ I admit it.
_Socr._ The wise however and the brave are good, but cowards and the
foolish bad?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ The good and the bad, therefore, rejoice and grieve equally?
_Cal._ I admit it.
116. _Socr._ Are, then, the good and the bad, good and bad in an equal
degree? or are the bad yet more good and bad?
_Cal._ By Jupiter, I do not know what you mean.
_Socr._ Do you not know that you said the good are good, through the
presence of good things, and the bad through the presence of evil
things? And that pleasures are good things, and pains evil?
_Cal._ I did.
_Socr._ Are not, therefore, good things, viz., pleasures, present with
those that rejoice, if they do rejoice?
_Cal._ Undoubtedly.
_Socr._ And since good things are present are not they who rejoice good?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ But what? Are not evil things, viz., pains, present with those
that suffer pain?
_Cal._ They are present.
_Socr._ But do you not say that the bad are bad, through the presence of
evil things? Or do you say so no longer?
_Cal._ I do.
_Socr._ Those, therefore, that rejoice, are good; but those that suffer
pain are bad?
_Cal._ Certainly.
_Socr._ And those that are more so, more, but those that are less so,
less? and those that are equally so, equally?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ Do you not say, then, that the wise and the foolish, cowards and
the brave, rejoice and grieve in an equal degree, or cowards even more?
_Cal._ I do.
117. _Socr._ Now in common with me, draw the inferences that result from
these admissions. For, they say, it is beautiful to repeat and consider
beautiful things twice, and even thrice. We say, that the prudent and
brave man is good; do we not?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ But that the foolish man and a coward is bad?
_Cal._ Certainly.
_Socr._ Again, that he who rejoices is good?
_Cal._ Yes.
_Socr._ And that he who suffers pain is bad?
_Cal._ Necessarily so.
_Socr._ And that the good and the bad suffer pain and rejoice equally,
but perhaps the bad more?
_Cal._ Yes.