The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum — Plato — John Shaqi
The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
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Callias therefore said, “Would you wish us to prepare seats, that you
may sit down and converse?” It was agreed that this should be done. And
we all of us, in great delight, as being about to listen to wise men,
laid hold of the stools, and benches, and couches, and placed them in
order near Hippias; for the stools were there already; meanwhile Callias
and Alcibiades brought Prodicus and his party with them, having made him
get out of bed.
When, therefore, we were all seated, “Now Socrates,” said Protagoras,
“since they are all here, you may repeat what you just now mentioned to
me respecting this youth.”
24. And I said, “My commencement, Protagoras, is the same as it was just
now, namely, with what design we came to you. Hippocrates here is very
desirous of your society, and says he shall be glad to hear what
advantage he may expect to derive from associating with you. Such is our
errand.”
Thereupon Protagoras said in reply, “Young man, the advantage which you
will derive from associating with me is this, that on the very day of
your being with me you will go home a better man than you were before,
and the same on the second day, and on each succeeding day you will make
some further progress.”
25. And I, on hearing this, said, “Protagoras, this is nothing wonderful
that you say, but very natural, since you too, old and wise as you are,
would become better, if any one should teach you what you do not happen
to know. But that is not what we require, but just as if Hippocrates
here should on the instant change his mind, and desire to associate with
the youth who has lately arrived, Zeuxippus of Heraclea, and coming to
him as he now does to you, should be told by him the very same things
that he has been by you, that by associating with him he would every day
become better, and make further progress; if he should further ask him,
‘In what do you mean I shall become better, and in what make further
progress?’ Zeuxippus would answer him, ‘In the art of painting.’ And if
he were to attach himself to Orthagoras of Thebes, and being told by him
the very same things that he has been by you, should further ask him in
what he would daily become better by associating with him, he would
reply, ‘In flute-playing.’ In like manner do you also reply to the
youth, and to me who ask for him: Hippocrates here, by associating with
Protagoras, on the very day in which he associates will go home a better
man, and on each succeeding day will in like manner make further
progress; in what Protagoras, and with respect to what?”