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26. Protagoras, on hearing me thus speak, said, “You put the question
fairly, Socrates, and I delight in answering those who put their
questions well. For Hippocrates, if he comes to me, will not be treated
as he would be treated if he were to attach himself to any other of the
sophists. For others injure youth; for when they have shewn an aversion
to the arts they drag them back again and force them to study the arts
by teaching them arithmetic, astronomy, geometry, and music; and at the
same time he looked aside at Hippias: but if he comes to me, he will not
learn anything else than that for which he came. The instruction that he
will receive is this, the method of consulting well about his domestic
affairs, in what way he may best govern his own house, and with respect
to public affairs, how he may be best able to act and speak on affairs
of state.”
27. “Do I follow your meaning?” I replied, “for you appear to me to mean
the political art, and to promise to make men good citizens.”
“That,” said he, “Socrates, is the very profession that I do make.”
“What an admirable skill you possess,” said I, “if you really do possess
it; for I will say nothing else to you but what I think. For I imagined,
Protagoras, that this could not be taught, yet since you say so, I know
not how to disbelieve you. It is right, however, that I should tell you
why I think it cannot be taught, nor acquired by men from men. For I, as
well as the other Greeks, say that the Athenians are wise. I see, then,
when we are met in the assembly, and when it is necessary for the city
to settle any thing respecting architecture, that the architects are
sent for and consulted about the buildings, and when respecting
ship-building, ship-builders; and so with all other things which they
think can be taught and learnt. But should any one else, whom they think
is not an artist, attempt to give them advice, even though he may be
very honourable, and rich and noble, they pay no more attention to him
on this account, but laugh at him and make an uproar, until either he of
his own accord desists from speaking, through being hooted down, or the
archers drag him away or remove him by order of the prytanes. 28. Thus
they proceed with respect to matters which they think pertain to art.
But when it is necessary to consult on any matter which relates to the
government of the city, any one rises up and gives his advice on such
subjects, whether he be a builder, a brazier, a shoemaker, a merchant, a
ship’s captain, rich, poor, noble or ignoble, and no one objects to
them, as to the others, that without having received any instruction, or
had any preceptor, they yet attempt to give advice; for it is clear that
they think this cannot be taught. And not only are the public in general
of this opinion, but privately, the wisest and best of our citizens are
unable to impart to others the excellence which they possess: for
Pericles, the father of these youths, as far as depended on masters, had