The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
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“By no means,” he replied, “since many men are brave, but unjust, and
again just, but not wise.”
“Are these, then, parts of virtue,” said I, “wisdom and courage?”
“Most assuredly,” he replied, “and wisdom is chief of all the parts.”
“And is every one of them,” said I, “different from every other?”
“Yes.”
“And has each of them its proper function, like the parts of the face?
For instance, an eye is not like the ears, nor is its function the same;
nor is any one of the others like any other, either as to its function,
or in any other respect. Thus, then, with the parts of virtue, is not
any one like any other, either in itself, or in its function? Is it not
clear that such is the case, since it resembles our example?”
“Such is the case, Socrates,” he replied.
52. Then I said, “Therefore none of the other parts of virtue are like
science, or like justice, or like courage, or like temperance, or like
holiness.”
“No,” he said.
“Come then,” said I, “let us examine together what the character of each
of them is. And first of all, thus; is justice a thing, or not a thing?
to me it appears to be a thing; but what does it appear to you to be?”
“To me also it appears to be a thing,” he replied.
“What then? If some one were to ask you and me, ‘Protagoras and
Socrates, tell me with respect to this very thing which you have just
now named, justice, whether is it in itself just or unjust?’ I should
answer him that it is just: but what decision would you give? the same
as mine, or different?”
“The same,” he replied.
“‘Justice, then, is precisely similar to being just,’ I should say in
answer to one who asked the question. And would not you, too?”
“Yes,” he said.
“If, then, after this, he should ask us, ‘Do you not also say that
holiness is something?’ we should reply, I think that we do?”
“Yes,” he said.
“‘Do you not say that this too is a thing?’ should we say it is, or
not?”
He allowed that we should say it is.
“‘But whether do you say that this very thing is of such a nature as to
be unholy, or holy?’ I for my part,” I said, “should be indignant at the
question, and should say, ‘Speak properly, my good sir, for scarcely
could any thing else be holy, if holiness itself be not holy.’ But what
should you say? should not you give the same answer?”
“Certainly,” he said.
“If, then, after this, he should ask us, and say, ‘What then did you
mean a little while ago? Or did I not hear you aright? For you appeared
to me to say that the parts of virtue are so disposed to each other,
that no one of them resembles any other;’ I, for my part should reply,
‘In other respects you heard aright, but in thinking that I too said
this, you were mistaken; for Protagoras gave this answer, and I put the
question.’ If then he should say, ‘Does he speak the truth, Protagoras;
do you say that no one part of virtue is like any other of its parts? Is
this your assertion?’ what answer would you give him?”
“I must needs admit it, Socrates,” he replied.