Plato and the Other Companions of Sokrates, 3rd ed. Volume 2 — Plato — John Shaqi
Plato and the Other Companions of Sokrates, 3rd ed. Volume 2
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Kalliklês maintains that pleasurable and good are
identical. Sokrates refutes him. Some pleasures are good, others bad.
A scientific adviser is required to discriminate them 345
Contradiction between Sokrates in the Gorgias, and
Sokrates in the Protagoras _ib._
Views of critics about this contradiction 346
Comparison and appreciation of the reasoning of Sokrates
in both dialogues _ib._
Distinct statement in the Protagoras. What are good and
evil, and upon what principles the scientific adviser is to proceed
in discriminating them. No such distinct statement in the Gorgias 347
Modern ethical theories. Intuition. Moral sense--not
recognised by Plato in either of the dialogues 348
In both dialogues the doctrine of Sokrates is
self-regarding as respects the agent: not considering the
pleasures and pains of other persons, so far as affected by
the agent 349
Points wherein the doctrine of the two dialogues is in
substance the same, but differing in classification _ib._
Kalliklês, whom Sokrates refutes in the Gorgias, maintains
a different argument from that which Sokrates combats in the
Protagoras 350
The refutation of Kalliklês by Sokrates in the Gorgias, is
unsuccessful--it is only so far successful as he adopts
unintentionally the doctrine of Sokrates in the Protagoras 351
Permanent elements--and transient elements--of human
agency--how each of them is appreciated in the two dialogues 353
In the Protagoras _ib._
In the Gorgias 354
Character of the Gorgias generally--discrediting all the
actualities of life 355
Argument of Sokrates resumed--multifarious arts of
flattery, aiming at immediate pleasure 357
The Rhetors aim at only flattering the public--even the
best past Rhetors have done nothing else--citation of the four great
Rhetors by Kallikles 357
Necessity for temperance, regulation, order. This is the
condition of virtue and happiness 358
Impossible to succeed in public life, unless a man be
thoroughly akin to and in harmony with the ruling force 359
Danger of one who dissents from the public, either for
better or for worse _ib._
Sokrates resolves upon a scheme of life for himself--to
study permanent good, and not immediate satisfaction 360
Sokrates announces himself as almost the only man at Athens,
who follows out the true political art. Danger of doing this 361
Mythe respecting Hades, and the treatment of deceased
persons therein, according to their merits during life--the
philosopher who stood aloof from public affairs, will then be
rewarded _ib._
Peculiar ethical views of Sokrates--Rhetorical or
dogmatical character of the Gorgias 362
He merges politics in Ethics--he conceives the rulers as
spiritual teachers and trainers of the community _id._
_Idéal_ of Plato--a despotic lawgiver or man-trainer,
on scientific principles, fashioning all characters pursuant to
certain types of his own 363