The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions — Plato — John Shaqi
The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
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_Soc._ Had I the command of you as well as of myself,
Meno, I would not have enquired whether virtue is given by
instruction or not, until we had first ascertained ‘what it is.’
But as you think only of controlling me who am your slave,
and never of controlling yourself,—such being your notion of
freedom, I must yield to you, for you are irresistible. And
therefore I have now to enquire into the qualities of a thing of
which I do not as yet know the nature. At any rate, will you
condescend a little, and allow the question ‘Whether virtue is
given by instruction, or in any other way,’ to be argued upon
hypothesis? As the geometrician, when he is asked [7]whether 87
a certain triangle is capable of being inscribed in a certain
circle[7], will reply: ‘I cannot tell you as yet; but I will offer
a hypothesis which may assist us in forming a conclusion: If
the figure be such that [8]when you have produced a given side
of it[8], the given area of the triangle falls short by an area
[9]corresponding to the part produced[9], then one consequence
follows, and if this is impossible then some other; and therefore
I wish to assume a hypothesis before I tell you whether
this triangle is capable of being inscribed in the circle:’—that
is a geometrical hypothesis. And we too, as we know not
the nature and qualities of virtue, must ask, whether virtue is
or is not taught, under a hypothesis: as thus, if virtue is of
such a class of mental goods, will it be taught or not? Let
the first hypothesis be that virtue is or is not knowledge,—in
that case will it be taught or not? or, as we were just now
saying, ‘remembered’? For there is no use in disputing
about the name. But is virtue taught or not? or rather,
does not every one see that knowledge alone is taught?
_Men._ I agree.
_Soc._ Then if virtue is knowledge, virtue will be taught?
_Men._ Certainly.
[Sidenote: _Virtue and knowledge._]
_Soc._ Then now we have made a quick end of this question:
if virtue is of such a nature, it will be taught; and if not, not?
_Men._ Certainly.
[Sidenote: ‘Of course.’]
_Soc._ The next question is, whether virtue is knowledge or
of another species?
_Men._ Yes, that appears to be the question which comes
next in order.
[Sidenote: But is virtue knowledge?]
_Soc._ Do we not say that virtue is a good?—This is a
hypothesis which is not set aside.
_Men._ Certainly.
[Sidenote: Virtue is a good, and profitable: and all profitable things
are either profitable or the reverse according as they are or are not
under the guidance of knowledge.]
_Soc._ Now, if there be any sort of good which is distinct
from knowledge, virtue may be that good; but if knowledge
embraces all good, then we shall be right in thinking that
virtue is knowledge?
_Men._ True.