The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum — Plato — John Shaqi
The works of Plato (Vol. 1 of 6) : $b A new and literal version chiefly from the text of Stallbaum
Plato · en
15. “For consider, by violating these compacts and offending against any
of them, what good you will do to yourself or your friends. For that
your friends will run the risk of being themselves banished, and
deprived of the rights of citizenship, or of forfeiting their property,
is pretty clear. And as for yourself, if you should go to one of the
neighbouring cities, either Thebes or Megara, for both are governed by
good laws, you will go there, Socrates, as an enemy to their polity, and
such as have any regard for their country will look upon you with
suspicion, regarding you as a corrupter of the laws, and you will
confirm the opinion of the judges, so that they will appear to have
condemned you rightly, for whoso is a corrupter of the laws will appear
in all likelihood to be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men. Will
you then avoid these well-governed cities, and the best-ordered men? And
should you do so, will it be worth your while to live? Or will you
approach them, and have the effrontery to converse with them, Socrates,
on subjects the same as you did here, that virtue and justice, legal
institutions and laws, should be most highly valued by men? And do you
not think that this conduct of Socrates would be very indecorous? You
must think so. But you will keep clear of these places, and go to
Thessaly, to Crito’s friends, for there is the greatest disorder and
licentiousness, and perhaps they will gladly hear you relating how
drolly you escaped from prison, clad in some dress or covered with a
skin, or in some other disguise such as fugitives are wont to dress
themselves in, having so changed your usual appearance. And will no one
say that you, though an old man, with but a short time to live, in all
probability, have dared to have such a base desire of life as to violate
the most sacred laws? Perhaps not, should you not offend any one. But if
you should, you will hear, Socrates, many things utterly unworthy of
you. You will live, too, in a state of abject dependence on all men, and
as their slave. But what will you do in Thessaly besides feasting, as if
you had gone to Thessaly to a banquet? And what will become of those
discourses about justice and all other virtues?—But do you wish to live
for the sake of your children, that you may rear and educate them? What
then? Will you take them to Thessaly, and there rear and educate them,
making them aliens to their country, that they may owe you this
obligation too? Or if not so, being reared here, will they be better
reared and educated while you are living, though not with them? for your
friends will take care of them. Whether, if you go to Thessaly, will
they take care of them, but if you go to Hades will they not take care
of them? If, however, any advantage is to be derived from those that say
they are your friends, we must think they will.